I have used both extensively (I wire pedalboards for guitarists on the side). I prefer and generally try to use 2319 for the extra protection it gives, and would highly recommend it for anyone not locking their cables down solidly on their pedalboards. There are applications where the 2314 is necessary however (such as when using the new Squareplug SPS4 plugs), and in those cases it has worked great for me.
It's a good thing I asked- I've been planning on using the squareplug (sps4's in fact). Will the SPS5's accomodate 2319?
That's where I was thinking the 2319 might make it cramped. Do you have to shorten the 236's?Really?
236's, depending on the cable you use will work. I mill the ends on them when making insert cables many times.
As a side note to painoman's comments which I agree, the SP500 will take the 2319 just fine. SP400, the smaller diameter cable should be used.
It's a good thing I asked- I've been planning on using the squareplug (sps4's in fact). Will the SPS5's accomodate 2319?
One thing I was also wondering about specifically is that I was thinking of using Switchcraft 236 plugs for insert cables on the bottom stereo loops on the mastermind pbc and was wondering if the thicker cable might make it more difficult to get all of those plugs to fit.
I'd respectfully disagree with the latter statement. I found that 2314 was actually a little too small for SP400 plugs, and didn't give much strain relief. When I've needed to use 2314 with SP400s, I've ended up using heat shrink on every cable to increase the diameter a bit and make it hold a little better. True, 2319 is a hair larger than recommended, but the jacket has always nicely compacted, and I've yet to hear of a single connection going bad.
I'm unsure where we were not in agreement with the SP400's and the 2314? You've even stated in your first statement "There are applications where the 2314 is necessary however (such as when using the new Squareplug SPS4 plugs), and in those cases it has worked great for me" No argument just not sure where we are not on the same page.
Regarding SP500's, they are in stock at Redco reseller, I'd think the manufacture would have them as well unless they shipped out all their stock to the resellers and awaiting fulfillment.
It was with SP400s and 2319 that I disagreed. You suggested that 2314 should be used, and my experience has been that both work, but 2319 is better, as 2314 needs some heat shrink to increase the diameter to a point that there is reliable strain relief, while 2319 does not. Sorry for not being clear enough!
I don't think we were ever in disagreeing though...you were just disagreeing with your first comment where you stated the 2314's worked well with the SP400's though added later that you felt the 2319's work better with the SP400's lol. Have you considered milling your 236's to help build your insert cables? As mentioned, I use a mill in my shop. Most won't have access to those...but a drill and vise can work well too. Hope your business does well. What type of soldering equipment do you use? I use a weller WD1002 with chemtronics liquid flux. I have them by the quarts but do production work...so it may be a bit overkill for you.
Hope this post helps others too.
I'd respectfully disagree with the latter statement. I found that 2314 was actually a little too small for SP400 plugs, and didn't give much strain relief. When I've needed to use 2314 with SP400s, I've ended up using heat shrink on every cable to increase the diameter a bit and make it hold a little better. True, 2319 is a hair larger than recommended, but the jacket has always nicely compacted, and I've yet to hear of a single connection going bad.
SP5s will work with 2319 for sure, but they probably won't be out for a few months at least. I haven't heard any recent news on when they're to be released.
Up to this point, I've always used 236 plugs for PBC stereo loops. It is a bit of a tight squeeze getting the cable out and running where you need it, but it does work with the standard sleeves. (See my wiring business Instagram page for some pictures of how it's worked for previous builds.) I use 2528 cable for stereo input/output connections, or for function switch connections where I need to split the cable off in two different directions. For mono pedals in the stereo loops, 2319 or 2314 will work fine. Just make sure you add a wire to connect the tip and sleeve so that you don't lose one side of your signal.
Gotcha PianoMan.
To the OP, you may also consider as well as Bestronics connectors, you may consider their cable. From spec, CA-0678 outperforms 2319. I've used extensively all three cables, and honestly, I prefer Bestronics cable over the two Mogami discussed regarding form and function. Cable itself is another whole other discussion.
I'd respectfully disagree with the latter statement. I found that 2314 was actually a little too small for SP400 plugs, and didn't give much strain relief. When I've needed to use 2314 with SP400s, I've ended up using heat shrink on every cable to increase the diameter a bit and make it hold a little better. True, 2319 is a hair larger than recommended, but the jacket has always nicely compacted, and I've yet to hear of a single connection going bad.
SP5s will work with 2319 for sure, but they probably won't be out for a few months at least. I haven't heard any recent news on when they're to be released.
Up to this point, I've always used 236 plugs for PBC stereo loops. It is a bit of a tight squeeze getting the cable out and running where you need it, but it does work with the standard sleeves. (See my wiring business Instagram page for some pictures of how it's worked for previous builds.) I use 2528 cable for stereo input/output connections, or for function switch connections where I need to split the cable off in two different directions. For mono pedals in the stereo loops, 2319 or 2314 will work fine. Just make sure you add a wire to connect the tip and sleeve so that you don't lose one side of your signal.
2528 cable is I believe slightly larger then the 236 accepts. It may be a too tight fit for your comfort level. As mentioned, there's quite a few to consider. From spec, it's a ~.319" diameter overall cable, the 236 accepts .25" which is obviously slightly smaller. So here's a time where modifying the 236 caps are probably a good idea. I don't use 2528 so I'm only looking at spec numbers for reference. For boards, I still prefer Bestronics cable over Magomi (which cap modification is desirable IMHO)...we're talking insert cables, not singular for 236's. Now for the guitar connection wire(which your not asking about)...but figure I'll mention since it's on my mind now... I like Mogami 2524 AND Sommercable Spirit LLX which is SUPER low capacitance (sommer LLX) over the rest. Its a definitive clarity difference due to the low capacitance as most use cables 15+ feet. Capacitance is far less relevant over short distances, active pickups and buffers. Completely off topic but o well .
You use Mogami 2524 AND Sommercable Spirit LLX for insert cables?