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Delay+Reverb spillover on Tuner mode

Discussion in 'PBC General Discussion' started by boudoudou8, Jan 19, 2020.

  1. boudoudou8

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    Hello everyone!

    I wonder how can I achieve to have my delay+reverb spillover while I engage the tuner of the pbc6x?

    Can I achieve that by simple actions on the tuner button?

    I thought about a workaround that consist in :
    -Make the tuner not muting the output of the pbc6x. So there is still sound whil I'm tuning
    -add an expression/volume pedal in the insert loop. So I can tune silently but my delay+reverb can spillover while I'm tuning
    -set up the switch below the volume/expression pedal in momentary mode, so when I'm to the maximum of the volume pedal, it activate the tuner. And when I release the volume pedal, I go back to setlist mode.

    Do you think this will work? Is there a simplier work around? I don't have a volume pedal yer so I can't try. But if there is a solution without volume pedal, I will be interested!

    Thank you very much,
     
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    All you need to do is edit the button, remove the Audio / Output actions and add an Audio / Input action to disable the input when the tuner is active.
     
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    Thanks a lot ! Now When I'm tuning, my delay+reverb spillover but I can hear myself tuning at a really low audio level.
    Do you know what it could be?

    And when I quit tuning mode and go back to preset mode, my guitare sound is really low. I have to change preset to go back to a normal audio level. Do you have an idea?

    P.S. I recall my pbc6x tuner mode by "Preser 2nd Press". I don't know if it's a clue?

    Thank you,
     
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    Sounds lie you're getting signal bleeding through at some point. I'm not sure why, it could even be the switching matrix itself. I've never tried muting using only the input.

    When you exit tuning, is it as quiet as it is when you're tuning? If so, check the action on the Mute button and make sure that it's Audio / Input off:ON on:OFF
     
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    Yes, it's as quiet whatever I'm on tuning or exiting tuning. I've set up my tuner button as you wrote it, it's the same issue. I've does the same for input2 just in case (I don't use it).

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    Ok, after turning off the tuner, does the input 1 indicator on the screen show that it's off or that it's on?
     
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    No, the input2 is underlign.

    But before turning on the tuner, I'm on input1.
     
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    Double check that the action on the button is Audio / Input off:ON on:OFF
     
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    It is actually like in this picture (and I've tried every combination between on&off).
     

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    Try removing the input 2 action - turning on input 2 turns off input 1 and vice versa. (only one input can be active at a time)
     
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    Thank you! This solve the input probleme when I quit tuning mode. But there is still the signal bleed issue.

    I have noticed that signal bleed while tuning happens when I was on a preset with my empress Echosystem. There is no signal bleed when I was on a preset without pedal activated. I'll try with each pedal but I don't understand
     
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    That is odd. The bleed doesn't happen in other cases? What loop is the Echosystem in?

    Are you playing with a lot of gain?
     
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    The Echosystem is in loop4, in mono. But I was wrong, it bleed anytime, with any pedal (or with 0 pedal) activated.

    I'm testing on my amp plugin "fortin nameless suit". There is gain, not a lot, like l jcm800 at mid-gain.

    I juste tried to plug my empress on loop3 but it still bleeding. I don't know what to do to resolve that
     
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    Did this happen just on my unit or someone could have re-created this issue?
     
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    Any idea to solve this ?
     
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    I tried it here in the lab, and I did notice that you could hear the guitar a little bit if the amp is up loud and you're only muting the input. This is crosstalk in the switching matrix, and the only thing you can do about it is turn off the main outputs instead of the input.
     
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    Thank you! Did turn off the main outputs will allow me to have my sound spillover in tuning mode?
     
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    No, you won't have spillover, I'm sorry to say.
     

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