Controlling Strymon Timeline

Thanks so much for this video, Ron. Can't wait to get mine all set up.
 
Thanks for the video Ron. I've followed it through and got all the switches as you have done. But I'm not sure on the process to kick the looper function in. Do I put the Timeline in the Looper mode on the pedal itself and then control via the PBC? I tried this but didn't manage to get things working.
 
You can just start using the looper functions, it should just start working. But, if you want the Timeline to actually show the looper status, you'll need to activate the looper on the Timeline itself - there doesn't seem to be any way to enable the looper display via MIDI.
 
I don't mind that the looper display doesn't show on the Timeline. But when I go to the Page 4 Buttons set-up as your video explains whatever Preset I'm currently in just shuts off and the PBC doesn't appear to be 'talking' (via MIDI) to the Timeline at all. I followed your set-up video step by step but something's not connecting right...
 
Just in case you were going to get back to me...some perseverance and I've gotten things worked out now so all good. Thanks again for the video upload.
 
Sorry about that, sometimes I get buried in tech support and can't dig out fast enough - glad to hear it's working though!
 
Hi Ron, Mikey here.
Any idea how to set up a couple of buttons to control the Looper Level? Ie. hold one button for volume increase and hold another button for volume decrease?
 
There's no way to do that currently. You can set a button to cycle through specific values, as many as four with an IA cycle button, but there isn't yet a way to press to increment / press to decrement. An expression pedal is the only way to get a full range of adjustment.
 
Can I assign the recording button to also do the overdub when pressed a second time. How about the play loop to re-trigger the loop.
 
Currently, the buttons can only do what Strymon's MIDI implementation allows. One day, if I can implement some fancy logic in the PBC we could do some tricks to have a button do multiple functions, but for now we're stuck with what we have.
 
These are features that are already available on the Timeline and just was wondering if you can achieve them by using the PBC.
 
I could be wrong, but I think the key in Ron's response is "the buttons can only do what Strymon's MIDI implementation allows". The Strymon buttons do those functions, but are there midi commands the Strymon recognize that do that same functions?
 
JNPMusic said:
Can I assign the recording button to also do the overdub when pressed a second time. How about the play loop to re-trigger the loop.
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I just tried this with a PBC and Timeline and I can get the play button on the PBC to retrigger the loop. Pressing Record the first time will start recording, pressing it again will switch to dub. Subsequent presses will switch between dub and play. There doesn't appear to be any single MIDI command that will make the pedal switch between dub and record once recording has started. You need to press stop, then press record to record a new loop.

Sorry for the lack of a clear answer before, it's been ages since I've messed with the Timeline looper and I didn't remember its exact range capabilities.
 
kpoole said:
Just in case you were going to get back to me...some perseverance and I've gotten things worked out now so all good. Thanks again for the video upload.
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Hi poole. I'm having the same problem...looper doesn't seem to engage when I go to page 4 and his record. Can you please tell me how you fixed it? Thanks.
 
Hi all- I know I'm several years later but had question about using the expression pedal connected to my PBC10 to control the looper level.

I got this set up for my Eventide H9 but there are somethings about it that might be easier using the TL (which I also have), so I am playing setting up both.

I have set up the record, stop, play, undo, redo, speed, and reverse as Ron describes in his video from some time ago.
On this page from Strymon (https://www.strymon.net/looping-with-strymon-timeline/), they also mention that the looper level can be controlled by midi cc#98 value 0-17 for the looper level. I have an expression pedal connected to my PBC and was wondering how I set that up to control the level.

I am using one of my buttons on the external button switch (set in Global) with IA cycle to control the TL Looper. To control the level should I:

1. in the IA actions, I use CC (toggle or momentary?) to control CC 98 set between 0 and 17, but how will the PBC know that it is meant to be controlled using the expression pedal not a switch going between 0 and 17?
2. Or in the IA actions do I use System/Exp Pedal/ with off value of 0 and on of 17, but then how do I select that the expression pedal should control cc 98?

The H9 has a similar idea with parameter 1 controlling the mix, which I wasn't able to figure out either.

Has anyone done this? what should I do?
 
Hi there, you need to use expression pedal settings, not button settings, to get the job done. Remove CC98 from any buttons that have it, that will just interfere. Then, in Global settings, edit one of the expression pedal blocks, for example Exp Pedal 1. Set the first device to H9, then set CC number to 98.

On your looper button, add this action:

System / Exp Pedal #1 off:Global on:1

That will select the expression pedal settings you just created when you turn on the looper, and will switch the expression pedal settings back to the global settings when you turn off the looper.

More details on expression pedals can be found here:
Mastering The Mastermind | Expression Pedals | Episode 15
 
Chuck Hanning said:
Hi all- I know I'm several years later but had question about using the expression pedal connected to my PBC10 to control the looper level.

I got this set up for my Eventide H9 but there are somethings about it that might be easier using the TL (which I also have), so I am playing setting up both.

I have set up the record, stop, play, undo, redo, speed, and reverse as Ron describes in his video from some time ago.
On this page from Strymon (https://www.strymon.net/looping-with-strymon-timeline/), they also mention that the looper level can be controlled by midi cc#98 value 0-17 for the looper level. I have an expression pedal connected to my PBC and was wondering how I set that up to control the level.

I am using one of my buttons on the external button switch (set in Global) with IA cycle to control the TL Looper. To control the level should I:

1. in the IA actions, I use CC (toggle or momentary?) to control CC 98 set between 0 and 17, but how will the PBC know that it is meant to be controlled using the expression pedal not a switch going between 0 and 17?
2. Or in the IA actions do I use System/Exp Pedal/ with off value of 0 and on of 17, but then how do I select that the expression pedal should control cc 98?

The H9 has a similar idea with parameter 1 controlling the mix, which I wasn't able to figure out either.

Has anyone done this? what should I do?
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Hi everyone- Just so you know this is a typo on strymon's website. The level value goes between 0-127 like most midi values. At only 17 you barely hear the loop you made, whereas 127 is the full volume you made it at.
 
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