confusedrackman
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Who has the brains to figure this one out?!?!?! The schematic looks pretty simple but I'm guessing it's harder than it looks (at least for me)!!!!
I'm trying hard to keep my dry signal in-tact while using digital effects and a looper in my rig. It should be a pretty simple setup, but I always get confused with the different types of cables (TS, TRS, Y, etc) and how they impact my signal flow.
Here is my schematic:
As you can see, I have a wireless that feeds my stomboxes in the first 8 loops. The buffer is then inserted in the chain before hitting the preamp input. I then feed the rack volume as the first thing in my serial loop before hitting a delay pedal (that has 1/4 inputs for using in stereo). In turn, that signal feeds a recording interface which feeds into a RJM mini mixer along with the dry signal. The interface can mute the input on the outputs (i.e. dry kill). Finally, the mixer combines the signals and feeds them to my stereo poweramp and 2 cabinets.
Here is what I'm hoping to accomplish with this setup:
1.) Keep my dry signal in-tact and feeding both left and right cabinets w/o going through digital converters (the delay pedal has dry analog thru so it is okay in the serial loop but the the looper interface does not have a dry analog path so I'm putting it in the parallel loop)
2.) A/B between both cabinets using loops 11&12 (completely muting the signal to each one)
3.) Pan my delay from one cabinet to the other (I can pan using an expression pedal for the delay and I'm currently okay with not being able to pan my dry signal which is always present in both sides)
4.) Use my volume pedal to reduce overall volume and delay trails fade naturally after volume down
5.) Mix the looper from right to left using the mixer in my recording interface (I can mute the inputs on the outputs within the mixing software to avoid phasing with the original dry signal - 'dry kill'). Additionally, my looping software allows me to pan recorded tracks from one side to another before it hits the mixer. For example, I could route the output mix in the mixer to be equal in both cabinets but I could have recorded track #1 be panned hard right and recorded track#2 panned hard left. In essence, I could have both loops 11 (left) &12 (right) on while recording track #1. I could have that track panned hard right in the recording software. Then, I could turn off loop 12 while soloing so my dry signal isn't present on that cabinet....only the recorded looping phrase is coming out. While I'm soloing, I'm recording on track #2 which is panned hard left (remember: loop 11 is still on so it is feeding a signal to that side of the mixer while I'm soloing). Finally, I kick both loops on and solo again while track #1 continues to come out of the right cabinet and track #2 is now coming out of the left cabinet. My 3rd and final solo is now coming out of both cabinets 'on top' of the recorded loops.
Will this setup allow me to do this? I'm thinking I may need to change a few TS cables to TRS cables to get this right. I talked with Ron awhile back about a similar configuration (without the mixer and looper in the mix) and he said I would need a TS (mono) to TRS (dual mono) cable coming from the volume output to go into loop 9 input for running stereo with a serial loop. From there, I'm guessing I would need to have a TRS from the output of 9 into 10. Not sure what to do really....
I'm trying hard to keep my dry signal in-tact while using digital effects and a looper in my rig. It should be a pretty simple setup, but I always get confused with the different types of cables (TS, TRS, Y, etc) and how they impact my signal flow.
Here is my schematic:
As you can see, I have a wireless that feeds my stomboxes in the first 8 loops. The buffer is then inserted in the chain before hitting the preamp input. I then feed the rack volume as the first thing in my serial loop before hitting a delay pedal (that has 1/4 inputs for using in stereo). In turn, that signal feeds a recording interface which feeds into a RJM mini mixer along with the dry signal. The interface can mute the input on the outputs (i.e. dry kill). Finally, the mixer combines the signals and feeds them to my stereo poweramp and 2 cabinets.
Here is what I'm hoping to accomplish with this setup:
1.) Keep my dry signal in-tact and feeding both left and right cabinets w/o going through digital converters (the delay pedal has dry analog thru so it is okay in the serial loop but the the looper interface does not have a dry analog path so I'm putting it in the parallel loop)
2.) A/B between both cabinets using loops 11&12 (completely muting the signal to each one)
3.) Pan my delay from one cabinet to the other (I can pan using an expression pedal for the delay and I'm currently okay with not being able to pan my dry signal which is always present in both sides)
4.) Use my volume pedal to reduce overall volume and delay trails fade naturally after volume down
5.) Mix the looper from right to left using the mixer in my recording interface (I can mute the inputs on the outputs within the mixing software to avoid phasing with the original dry signal - 'dry kill'). Additionally, my looping software allows me to pan recorded tracks from one side to another before it hits the mixer. For example, I could route the output mix in the mixer to be equal in both cabinets but I could have recorded track #1 be panned hard right and recorded track#2 panned hard left. In essence, I could have both loops 11 (left) &12 (right) on while recording track #1. I could have that track panned hard right in the recording software. Then, I could turn off loop 12 while soloing so my dry signal isn't present on that cabinet....only the recorded looping phrase is coming out. While I'm soloing, I'm recording on track #2 which is panned hard left (remember: loop 11 is still on so it is feeding a signal to that side of the mixer while I'm soloing). Finally, I kick both loops on and solo again while track #1 continues to come out of the right cabinet and track #2 is now coming out of the left cabinet. My 3rd and final solo is now coming out of both cabinets 'on top' of the recorded loops.
Will this setup allow me to do this? I'm thinking I may need to change a few TS cables to TRS cables to get this right. I talked with Ron awhile back about a similar configuration (without the mixer and looper in the mix) and he said I would need a TS (mono) to TRS (dual mono) cable coming from the volume output to go into loop 9 input for running stereo with a serial loop. From there, I'm guessing I would need to have a TRS from the output of 9 into 10. Not sure what to do really....
