TX6Strings
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Hello - Is there a way to turn off/on the buffer in the insert loop of the PBC6X?
Thank you
Thank you
PBC6X insert loop buffer off/on?
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It's part of the insert loop, so turning off the insert loop turns off the buffer. Moving the insert loop also moves the buffer, and the position matters. Sometimes a little, sometimes a lot. Depends on what you have in the other loops.
cuterigs
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@rjmmusic Sorry to hijack this topic a bit but I have a slightly related question. I have customer with a rig I built for him that likes a buffer after his fuzz (it brightens it up a bit).
If I split the insert loop (insert loop 1 has a pedal) and leave insert loop 2 with nothing plugged into it, will it pass signal? My thought is to leave insert 2 on at the end of his chain as an output buffer of sorts. Or will I need to just connect the send to the return of that loop to do this?
If I split the insert loop (insert loop 1 has a pedal) and leave insert loop 2 with nothing plugged into it, will it pass signal? My thought is to leave insert 2 on at the end of his chain as an output buffer of sorts. Or will I need to just connect the send to the return of that loop to do this?
As long as you keep insert loop 2 turned off, it will pass signal. If you turn it on, it'll mute. You can lock insert 2 in the off position to prevent this.
VirusKiller
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Apologies for necro-threading this, but I'm a bit confused here. I'm considering the PBC/6X for another rig and would like the option of disabling the insert loop buffer (I'll have at least one always-on pedal with a high quality buffer).
On the one hand:
On the other hand:
Just trying to understand exactly how this works. Thx!
On the one hand:
On the other hand:
But cuterigs' use case here was to engage the buffer (after a fuzz)?
Just trying to understand exactly how this works. Thx!
cuterigs
Well-Known Member
I believe the buffer is always on in the insert loop itself and there’s no option to turn it off. Turn on insert loop and the pedal in that loop gets a buffered signal (presumably for long runs to say, an amp effects loop or maybe a volume pedal that tends to suck tone). You can’t turn the buffer off in this loop so you don’t want impedance sensitive pedals in the insert loops.Apologies for necro-threading this, but I'm a bit confused here. I'm considering the PBC/6X for another rig and would like the option of disabling the insert loop buffer (I'll have at least one always-on pedal with a high quality buffer).
On the one hand:
On the other hand:
But cuterigs' use case here was to engage the buffer (after a fuzz)?
Just trying to understand exactly how this works. Thx!
My customer basically wanted to be able to turn on a buffer placed right after his fuzz because it made his fuzz brighter. I was asking if having the insert loop with no pedal in it and turning it on (to basically use it as a buffer) would send signal through or mute. Turns out it would mute. So my options were to use a patch cable to connect the send return to each other and just have everything pass through this always on/empty/buffered loop, sort of as a “hacked” output buffer.
We ended up just using a Boss TU-3 placed after the PBC6X output and that did the job for him.
In my experience, I don’t think the buffered loop will cause any problems even with your own buffer on before it. I’ve tested the (awesome) Axess Electronics OTS1 buffered junction box with my own PBC6X extensively. With the OTS1 buffering the input, turning on/off the PBC input buffer or the buffered loops after it made no discernible difference. Essentially, the OTS1 “set the tone” and there were no detrimental effects having the PBC buffered loops on after it (like turning pedals on after a buffer doesn’t negate the effects of the buffer, that’s what it’s for). The effects of each buffer didn’t “stack” on top of each other creating a cumulative brightening effecting or anything like that.
Hope this helps!