RG16 / Effet Gizmo ?

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alexglvr

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Hello !

I am looking for a solution to organize my Rig, and I need some advise please...

1. First Goal :Bypassing the TC G-system:

The G-sys has a pre-amplifier loop (compressor, Eq, ..) and a post amplifier loop (reverb, delay, etc..).
It can be wired using the 4 cable method :
Guit-> Gsys input // Gsys amp send -> Amp-input // Amp-fx-send -> Gsys amp return // Gsys output -> amp FX return.

The problem is that the gsystem is not perfectly transparent and therefore I lose a bit of my amp sound texture..

The idea is to be able to bypass individually each Gsys loops in order to have the "direct to amp sound" when the gsystem is not used...


2. MIdi rig and effect Bypassing:

The idea is to place all my pedals in a rack, and use the midiswitcher to bypass the effects. In this configuration everything is controlled using my midi pedalboard and all my effects can be "true bypassed"...

3. Amp channel switching:

I will also use the midi switcher for amp channel / solo mode selection.

4. Future 2 amp configuration:

In September i will purchase a second amp head and i would like to be able to switch between the two ...

here is the idea of my final Rigg :

rigg.jpg


I do not know what is best for my application: effect gismo or RG-16?

I need:

- to store and recall "user patches" in which each loop configuration is defined (midi program change event).
- to be able to individually switch on / off each loop (midi CC event).
- I need to switch on / off two loops simulataneously with a single CC event (for the amp selection part).
- 3 TRS loops for stereo switching
- To control the amps channel selection.

Can I do all that with the gizmo or RG16 unit?

When a loop is bypassed, is the send signal floating or connected to ground?

I am surching for a purely transparent system... Is it really the case? :)

Sorry for all the questions and thank you for your help !

Cheers,

Alex
 
Looks like you'll need an Effect Gizmo (the RG-16 does not support stereo) and either an Amp Gizmo or two Mini Amp Gizmos to handle channel switching on your amps. Which amps(s) are you using? The footswitch arrangements of both amps will determine the best product(s) to use with them.
 
my amps are NOS CA100. They are hand made Tube amps.
The channel selection command is a simple jack...

Alex
 
could you please confirm that with a effect gizmo, i will be able to switch on / off two loops simulataneously with a single CC event ??

I also need to know When a loop is bypassed, if the send signal is left floating or if is it connected to ground?

Can you also confirm please that it is very transparent?

Thank you for your help,

Alex
 
To control two amps with simple 1/4" footswitch jacks, I recommend the Amp Gizmo (not the Mini Amp Gizmo). It will allow you to connect to both amps and give you control of channel switching on both amps. The Amp Gizmo jacks are isolated from each other, so it's safe to connect both amps to it.

You can switch on two loops simultaneously with one CC on the Effect Gizmo. The groups of two are predefined: 1&2, 3&4, 5&6, 7&8, 9&10, 11&12

Sends are always grounded when a loop is switched off.
 
Cool! Thank you for your help !

A last question please :

In my configuration, several loops of the effect Gizmo will be used to switch the guitar signal. I would prefer not to use the buffer as the goal is to keep the "direct to amp" possibility (if all the loop are bypassed).

I was told that it would not work well due to a important loss of signal...

Is it true?
 
It really depends on personal preference and all of the gear you're using. As you add more gear, you will eventually start losing signal and high end. A buffer will fix that. You could always build the rig without the buffer and add in the buffer if it turns out to be necessary.
 
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