AXE FX3 switching back to previous preset

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Roy Beukers

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Hi guys,
Sometimes I press a button to switch to another preset on the AxeFX3, it loads, and after a second it switches back to the previous preset. Any ideas on what causes that? It doesn't always do it. I've tried the 'send redundant pc's' setting but that didn't help.

Kind regards,
Roy
 
The most common cause for this is MIDI PC mapping on the Axe-Fx. Make sure it's disabled.

No matter the cause, you can stop this by turning on Ignore Incoming PC in the Mastermind's Devices settings.
 
The PC mapping is off. The Ignore incoming PC solves it. Thank you.
Any other idea's on where I went wrong with the programming?
 
Roy Beukers said:
The PC mapping is off. The Ignore incoming PC solves it. Thank you.
Any other idea's on where I went wrong with the programming?
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I'm not sure, it would take some investigation using your settings and an Axe-Fx to figure it out. Bidirectional communication with an Axe-Fx is pretty tricky, and one small thing is enough to disrupt it.

I just remembered: Another frequent cause of problems like this is setting MIDI Receive Channel on the GT to the same channel number as the Axe-Fx. Some people do this, thinking it's the right thing to do, but it actually causes problems.
 
Again: Thnx for all your support over the years.
I understand about the Axe-Fx.
I've found that the GT22 didn't had a midi channel selected. I'll give it a go with it's own channel.
 
Roy Beukers said:
Again: Thnx for all your support over the years.
I understand about the Axe-Fx.
I've found that the GT22 didn't had a midi channel selected. I'll give it a go with it's own channel.
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Unless you're actually controlling the GT from another MIDI controller or computer, I recommend keeping MIDI Receive Channel set to None. Having it set to the same channel as the Axe-Fx is the worst case, but leaving it set to any channel can also cause unexpected behavior in some cases.
 
Ok, sorry, one last thing. Something weird is happening and I don't know what is happening.
I'm going to try my best to explain what's happening.The XLR midi output of the GT22 is going over RTP midi to my rack.
On my pedalboard I have an extra switch connected to the DIN midi output and a Jackson Audio Golden Boy connected to the XLR Remote in (the output ofcourse). All of that is working fine, but:
When I select preset 1 on the AxeFX (and it only happens on preset1) and then select another scene besides scene 1, the Golden boy activates. But I'm not sending any commands. I've checked with MidiMonitor before and after the Axe FX, but nothing. Not even anything on the midi channel for the Golden Boy.

On page 12 I've made a page for the Golden Boy. The bottom left button is a preset button. That button seems to be triggered, probably by the Axe, but I'm not having it send out extra midi data.
When I turn the 'Send on preset change' for that specific button off, the glitch stops. But that way I can't use that Golden Boy preset in GT22 presets.

Any idea's on this? Sorry to ask so much time of you.

here are the midi settings btw:
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What actions are on the preset button in question (if any)? Are you able to monitor what's coming out of the XLR MIDI In jack?
 
The preset actions list is empty, and IA buttons are off, so it only sends some PC's and CC's. Exactly like it should.
I was able to monitor the output of the GT22, that seems perfect. But it seems like it responds to messages back from the AxeFX. That's in sysex.

The output of the remote in is hard to monitor because thats XLR to stereo Jack, but the Golden Boy uses its own weird midi over jack protocol. I have to solder another cable to do that.
 
I've been doing some research and found out some things.
I've changed the button which seems to be triggered so it also sends a PC to another device. That happens so it really seems to be triggering that specific button. Also I've used MidiMonitor to record what the AxeFX sends when I press that button. Then I've made a mid file off that and I can send it to the GT22 with Sysex Librarian and it does trigger the button. I'll attach the mid file. While testing this, the AxeFX was turned off.
 

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Here's a translation of what's being sent:

Current preset is 0: CLEAN
Select scene 3
Effect block status:
- AMP 1 CH B on
- CAB 1 CH B on
- Chorus 1 CH A off
- Comp 1 CH A on
- Delay 2 CH A off
- etc...
Select scene 1
Current preset is 0: CLEAN
Select scene 1
Select scene 1
Effect block status (same as above?)
Current preset is 0: CLEAN
Select scene 1
Select scene 3
Effect block status (same as above?)

It sure seems like the Axe-Fx's status reports are triggering the button. Can you send me the settings for the button in question, or your whole settings file?
 
Ofcourse! Here is it:

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The button is on page 12, bottom left one.

In the settings of that button you’ll see a PC to switch6. That is there to check if it was the button that was being triggered. So that command is going to be deleted later on.
 
Ok, it's a simple preset button, so what's triggering it is the Axe-Fx's "Current preset is 0: CLEAN" command it's sending to the GT. That will select the first preset on the GT, triggering everything that the GT does on preset 1. If you don't want this to happen, turn on Ignore Incoming PC in the GT's Devices tab.
 
That’s true but the weird stuff happens when you press and hold preset button 1 on the first page, you go to a scene select page. If you switch on preset 1 to scene 2-8 the golden boy preset button gets triggered to ‘on’ and goes back off if you switch back to scene 1.
The normal preset buttons on page 1 work great.
 
Please try turning off Poll State and turning on Ignore Incoming PC - see if that helps. That will, at least, help to identify where the problem is coming from.
 
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